1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 on this edition of Sighted. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,000 It is the most famous and well-documented abduction case on record. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,000 If I hadn't seen some of this stuff with my own eyes, there's no way I would have believed any of it. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Now, for the first time, the shocking true story told by the actual victims of an alien intruder. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Whoever robbed this drugstore and killed three employees, got away with murder. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Can a psychic now be a victim of a murder? 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Can a psychic now succeed where police have failed? 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 It feels like death. 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,000 When this family started renovating their historic Maryland home, something very old began to haunt them. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 It didn't like me because I tore down the chimney and felt it was its home. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,000 And it was a very cold negative kind of feeling too. Very scary. 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:54,000 And the amazing story behind those incredible pictures showing how a star is born. 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:06,300 Marcus 14 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:09,300 Welcome to Sightings. I'm Tim White. 15 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:11,300 In his bestseller in Truders, 16 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:14,300 Bud Hopkins chronicled the lives of one Indiana family 17 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:16,300 who were being victimized by what they believed 18 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:18,300 were extraterrestrial inventions. 19 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:20,300 In the late 19th century, 20 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:22,300 the world's most advanced technology 21 00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:24,300 was the American technology. 22 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:26,300 In the early 19th century, 23 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:28,300 the world's most advanced technology 24 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:30,300 was the American technology. 25 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:32,300 In the early 19th century, 26 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:34,300 the world's most advanced technology 27 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:36,300 was the American technology. 28 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:38,300 They believed were extraterrestrial invaders. 29 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:40,300 The book used pseudonyms. 30 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:42,300 When a movie was made about the beleaguered family, 31 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:44,300 actors portrayed them. 32 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:46,300 But now, after more than a decade, 33 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:48,300 the real families agreed to come forward. 34 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:50,300 Here are their first-person accounts of life 35 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:52,300 with the intruders. 36 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:00,300 On a warm Indian summer evening, 37 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:02,300 on the porch of their Indianapolis home, 38 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:04,300 they shared a family meal. 39 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:06,300 A passerby might mistake them for a typical 40 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:08,300 Midwestern family, unless, of course, 41 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:10,300 they'd read this book, 42 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:12,300 detailing the white's personal history 43 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,300 of alien abduction. 44 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:16,300 There was more evidence supporting this abduction 45 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:20,300 than any and so far investigated history 46 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:22,300 of the science of the comparative study 47 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:26,300 of abduction, of the abduction phenomenon. 48 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,300 This is the first case 49 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:30,300 that let us understand the alien's purpose. 50 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:32,300 The family's incredible story 51 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:36,300 first came to bud Hopkins' attention in 1983. 52 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:38,300 The white's middle daughter, Debbie, 53 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:40,300 wrote Hopkins a letter explaining her fear 54 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:42,300 and frustration, and included these photographs 55 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:44,300 of strange burn marks, 56 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:46,300 which were appearing in the white's backyard. 57 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:48,300 The grass looked like it had been compacted. 58 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,300 There was no grass alive on it. 59 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:52,300 That in itself really ticked me off 60 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:54,300 because I thought my yard was nice. 61 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:56,300 It was a very beautiful place. 62 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:58,300 I was very surprised. 63 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,300 I thought my yard was nice. 64 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:02,300 It was one day nice, next day, no. 65 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:06,300 There it is, and it stayed like it for almost five years. 66 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:08,300 Hopkins had received many letters 67 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:10,300 from self-proclaimed abductees, 68 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:12,300 but none had the wealth of experience 69 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:14,300 and the mysterious physical evidence 70 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:16,300 present in the white case. 71 00:03:16,300 --> 00:03:18,300 This is what happened to the nice, rich, 72 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:22,300 lomy, black-brown soil that the backyard 73 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:24,300 in Indiana had. 74 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:27,300 It was turned sort of gray and hard as a rock. 75 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:30,300 So we don't know what it is that caused this effect, 76 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:33,300 but it has turned up in numerous other UFO landing cases 77 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,300 in other parts of the world. 78 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:38,300 When I got out there and what I learned 79 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:40,300 through a few phone calls, 80 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:45,300 the neighbors had witnessed certain manifestations. 81 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:48,300 That very night, there was this tremendous noise 82 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:50,300 coming from Debbie's yard 83 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:54,300 and this huge flash of light coming through the trees, 84 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:56,300 and all the electricity went out. 85 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:59,300 So we had a lot of people who could say, 86 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:03,300 no, this is not something that went on in some young woman's head. 87 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:05,300 This is something that went on outside the house, 88 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:07,300 the backyard. 89 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:09,300 During that UFO encounter, 90 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:12,300 Debbie had a period of missing time she could not account for, 91 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:14,300 but under hypnosis, 92 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:17,300 the pieces of the puzzle began to fall into place. 93 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:21,300 We proceeded to do a hypnotic regression, 94 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:24,300 and the story began to slowly unfold 95 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:28,300 of what had happened in the period of time she couldn't recall. 96 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:31,300 Things started coming out of me. 97 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:34,300 Memories started coming back from all over the place. 98 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:37,300 It was like a flood gate opened up. 99 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:39,300 During that session, 100 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:41,300 Debbie recalled the terrifying events 101 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:45,300 that preceded the mysterious burn marks on the lawn. 102 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:48,300 I had to change my life forever. 103 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:53,300 I happened to see a really strange light coming out of a pump house 104 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:56,300 that's next to the swimming pool out back. 105 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:58,300 I was thinking of the prowlers, you know, 106 00:04:58,300 --> 00:05:01,300 and by the time I got back there in just maybe five minutes, 107 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:03,300 it was gone. 108 00:05:03,300 --> 00:05:05,300 When the lights disappeared, 109 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:07,300 Debbie asked her mother to babysit 110 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:09,300 while Debbie went over to a girlfriend's house. 111 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:12,300 Later that night, from the doorway, 112 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:15,300 Debbie's mother began to see the lights as well. 113 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:18,300 I looked at the window on the bird feeder. 114 00:05:18,300 --> 00:05:24,300 I seen a light that was about the size of a basketball. 115 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:27,300 And I got on the phone and I called Debbie 116 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:31,300 because I was here with the two little ones by myself. 117 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:32,300 So I hung up the phone. I said, 118 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:34,300 I gotta go home. There's something going on. 119 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:36,300 She come in the dead door, 120 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:39,300 and she said, where's dad's shotgun? 121 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:42,300 And Debbie picked up the gun, 122 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,300 went out in the back, 123 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:46,300 and I washed her out the back door, 124 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:49,300 and she came to the pump house and she opened the door. 125 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:52,300 I don't remember seeing a darn thing. 126 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:56,300 Found my dog hiding under my dad's truck out back 127 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:59,300 and tried with all my might to get her out from under the truck. 128 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:02,300 She would not come. She was screaming and squealing. 129 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:06,300 I grabbed her paws and tried to drag her and she wouldn't come. 130 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:08,300 When Debbie walked back toward the house, 131 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:11,300 she saw a ball of light inside the garage. 132 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:14,300 Her mother was standing frozen at the screen door. 133 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:16,300 Sometimes when a person is being abducted, 134 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:18,300 the other people are switched off, 135 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:22,300 as we call it there, sort of in a state of suspended animation. 136 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:26,300 All of a sudden, I feel like my whole body is on fire. 137 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:28,300 Every inch of my skin is burning, 138 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:30,300 and I realized I couldn't move. 139 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:32,300 And I also could hardly see. 140 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:35,300 It was like I'd been attacked by a mob of tourists 141 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:38,300 with cameras flashing me in the eyes. 142 00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:41,300 Then I could see this movement in the yard in front of me, 143 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:44,300 and there were six small people. 144 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:46,300 I could see these big black eyes. 145 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:49,300 Ooh, and I got the shivers, you know? 146 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:51,300 And I'm thinking, no, this can't be. 147 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:53,300 Then I could move again. 148 00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:57,300 It's like I blinked and all this stuff was gone. 149 00:06:57,300 --> 00:07:00,300 Later we figured out I was gone in like an hour and a half, 150 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:02,300 and I don't remember like 10 minutes. 151 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:04,300 For months after the incident, 152 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:07,300 Debbie suffered from fatigue, headache, and flu-like symptoms. 153 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:09,300 The family dog died soon after the encounter 154 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:12,300 from what the vet described as an illness resembling 155 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:14,300 radiation poisoning. 156 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:16,300 When Bud Hopkins met the family later, 157 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:19,300 he administered psychological and physical tests 158 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:22,300 and determined that the whites were of sound, wind, and body. 159 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:26,300 He then began his three-year study of their abduction experiences. 160 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:30,300 It would seem that the mother had had childhood abduction experiences, 161 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:36,300 and that Debbie's sister had also had experiences as a child. 162 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:41,300 This is what the hypnotic sessions revealed. 163 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:44,300 Of course, her mother having this very deep scoop mark 164 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:46,300 in the front of her leg, 165 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:49,300 more or less in exactly the same place that Debbie's is. 166 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:51,300 So there was a lot of reason to believe 167 00:07:51,300 --> 00:07:55,300 that the family was associated with an abduction. 168 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:57,300 Debbie's older sister, Kathy, 169 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:03,300 recalled an extraordinary UFO encounter she had as a teenager in 1965. 170 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:08,300 My mom had me take her to a church function. 171 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:12,300 It was approximately 430. 172 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:14,300 I was driving home, 173 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:19,300 and the next thing I remembered consciously, 174 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:21,300 I was not on the road. 175 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:23,300 I was sitting behind a church, 176 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:29,300 looking up at the sky at this huge UFO that was over my car. 177 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:33,300 And then just instantly, it just went so past it. 178 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:35,300 In a blink of an eye, it was gone. 179 00:08:35,300 --> 00:08:37,300 It was dark. 180 00:08:37,300 --> 00:08:40,300 It was just pitch black outside. 181 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:43,300 And it was time for me to go back and get my mom, 182 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:48,300 which would have made it approximately 1130. 183 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:53,300 So from some time between 5 and 1130, 184 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:56,300 what seemed to be just a couple of minutes to me, 185 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:59,300 that much time had lapsed. 186 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:03,300 Under hypnosis, Kathy was able to fill in that missing time 187 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:06,300 in horrifying and graphic detail. 188 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:08,300 I remember being on a table. 189 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:12,300 The entity I remember is very, very tall. 190 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:17,300 The face was exactly like a praying mantis, 191 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:23,300 and it moved its head in very jerky-like manner. 192 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:26,300 And I'm pretty sure, just in my own heart, 193 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:29,300 that that's not the first time in 1965. 194 00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:31,300 I think it was very upsetting to her 195 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:35,300 what she was experiencing, re-experiencing other hypnosis, 196 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:37,300 and decided that was it, no more. 197 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:40,300 But Debbie continued to probe her abduction experiences, 198 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:42,300 recalling events from childhood, 199 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:44,300 and soon a pattern of experience developed 200 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:48,300 that she believes explains why she was forced to endure painful 201 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:52,300 and humiliating experimentation. 202 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:56,300 Debbie's bizarre odyssey was only just beginning. 203 00:09:56,300 --> 00:10:01,300 Her family searched for a reason why the intruders had chosen them after this. 204 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:03,300 Next, Debbie White's terrifying, 205 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:06,300 repressed memory of her alien abduction. 206 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:10,300 I assume they were telling me I was this child's mother. 207 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:21,300 By 1985, Debbie Jordan and her sister, Kathy Mitchell, 208 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:26,300 were in the middle of a nightmarish series of experiences they could not explain. 209 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:30,300 At first, they tried to see the alien intruders as a dream, 210 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:33,300 or a hallucination infecting their minds. 211 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:37,300 The possibility that the intruders were real was too difficult to face. 212 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:50,300 But Hopkins' three-year investigation concluded that the White family of Indianapolis 213 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:54,300 had had a 30-year relationship with extraterrestrial forces, 214 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:56,300 Hopkins dubbed the intruders. 215 00:10:56,300 --> 00:11:00,300 And when daughter Debbie was hypnotized and regressed back to earlier alien encounters, 216 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:06,300 she revealed the sinister purpose behind the family's chain of abduction experience. 217 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:10,300 What you are about to hear are the actual tapes from her hypnotherapy sessions. 218 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,300 Something's not right. 219 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:23,300 What's happening? 220 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,300 I can't see it squashed. 221 00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:28,300 Squashed? 222 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,300 Oh, body. 223 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:33,300 I must have done it. 224 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:40,300 I felt as if somebody had taken my insides and just ripped me open inside, 225 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:45,300 and I could feel something pulling out of me, 226 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:50,300 and this little tiny thing that looked like a mouse with no skin on it, 227 00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:55,300 like a baby mouse, squirming around in their hand. 228 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:57,300 No. 229 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:01,300 It was not right. 230 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:04,300 It was not there. 231 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:07,300 It was right. 232 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:10,300 That is a woman crying out. 233 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:15,300 That is a woman crying out in pain, emotional pain, 234 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,300 that her child is being taken from her. 235 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:20,300 When this came up with Debbie, 236 00:12:20,300 --> 00:12:23,300 and she finally said to me that she had been pregnant, 237 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:26,300 and that the baby had disappeared, 238 00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:30,300 I realized that this was pretty important in this case. 239 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:37,300 This is the first case that let us understand the sexual reproductive purpose, 240 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:42,300 and now we see it as central, as absolutely the focus of the whole thing. 241 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:44,300 It was the first case, but not the last. 242 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:49,300 Hopkins received correspondence from hundreds of other abductees who all told the same story, 243 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:54,300 and Hopkins came to believe that the reason for the abductions was to create hybrids, 244 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:57,300 have human, have alien beings. 245 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:02,300 I remember being in this place, there were several of these gray things in this room, 246 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:10,300 and holding their hand was a very small little person who didn't look like them. 247 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:16,300 She had tufts of white cotton hair sticking out of her head all over, 248 00:13:16,300 --> 00:13:20,300 really large eyes, but human, blue. 249 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:23,300 When I thought, oh, I'd love to hug you, 250 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:26,300 and she got this panic look on her face, her eyes got huge, 251 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:29,300 and she darted behind one of them, like she was scared to death for me, 252 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:32,300 and I felt real sad. 253 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:39,300 I asked if I could take her home with me, and he told me no, she couldn't survive with me. 254 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:48,300 I assumed they were telling me that I was this child's mother. 255 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:53,300 In 1993, Debbie had a hysterectomy, and immediately after the operation, 256 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:56,300 her abduction experiences ended abruptly. 257 00:13:56,300 --> 00:14:00,300 But her two children, now grown, continue to have experiences of their own, 258 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:06,300 and Debbie's new husband, Dave, recently discovered a new scoop mark on his shin. 259 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:12,300 That was another very important discovery that I made in that case, 260 00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:16,300 which of course accompanies this idea of some kind of genetic experimentation, 261 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:20,300 because you're going to be doing that sort of thing across generations. 262 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:25,300 The theory is about why a hybrid race is being created all over the map, 263 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:30,300 but they tend to run to the idea that the aliens have reached some kind of evolutionary dead end, 264 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:33,300 and need to revivify their own species. 265 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:37,300 Debbie and her sister, Kathy, recently collaborated on a book, 266 00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:40,300 detailing their very personal encounters for both of them, 267 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:44,300 choosing to make their experiences public was a difficult decision. 268 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:49,300 I just felt like it's time, maybe it's just time to just do this, 269 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:51,300 and get it out in the open. 270 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:56,300 And so right at the very last minute, the publisher called me and wanted to know 271 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:59,300 if I would use my real name. 272 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:03,300 I said, well, sure, I have to use my real face. 273 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:06,300 Might as well use my real name. 274 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:11,300 Coming forward and revealing their true identities has not been without a price. 275 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:15,300 Although the White family is committed to the reality of alien abduction, 276 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:18,300 not everyone sees their revelations as sincere. 277 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:22,300 The book shares is an incredible tale beyond scientific proof. 278 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:29,300 I don't expect people to believe any of the stuff that me or any of my family members tell them. 279 00:15:29,300 --> 00:15:32,300 Believe me, if I hadn't seen some of this stuff with my own eyes, 280 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:35,300 there's no way I would have believed any of it, you know? 281 00:15:35,300 --> 00:15:39,300 All we know is something weird is going on, and it's happening to a lot of people, 282 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:43,300 and people should stop and think twice about it. 283 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:45,300 It could happen to you. 284 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:52,300 Although Debbie Jordan has not felt the presence of an intruder since 1992, 285 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:56,300 she continues to counsel abductees and their families. 286 00:15:56,300 --> 00:16:00,300 As a member of Bud Hopkins' Intruders Foundation. 287 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:06,300 Next, marketing the UFO phenomenon, how the CIA used psychic visions, 288 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:10,300 and how archaeologists unearthed an Incan curse. 289 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:17,300 Here are some of the stories Sightings is following in the news. 290 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:23,300 A joint expedition by American and Peruvian archaeologists has made an historic discovery. 291 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:27,300 They're now unearthing the ancient mummified remains of human sacrifices, 292 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:30,300 untouched for more than 500 years. 293 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:39,300 In the past, the CIA has been working on the discovery of the UFO phenomenon. 294 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:45,300 In the Peruvian Andes, the discovery of three frozen mummies may have unleashed a powerful evil curse. 295 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:49,300 Archaeologists have identified the mummies as children of the ancient Incas, 296 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:54,300 sacrificed some 500 years ago to appease an angry volcano god. 297 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:58,300 Human sacrifices are comparatively rare in Inca culture, 298 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:06,300 but quite often it was young women or the children of fairly well-to-do people, 299 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:09,300 and it was counted in honor. 300 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:13,300 Simmons is a folklorist who has studied the excavation of the mummies 301 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:18,300 and other sacrificial artifacts found at the base of Peruv's Sabanquilla volcano. 302 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:23,300 Simmons believes that their removal from this sacred site is tantamount to grave robbing. 303 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:27,300 You are disturbing the situation that was set up. 304 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:33,300 You're disturbing the intent if you go in and disturb that sacrifice. 305 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:37,300 And that could certainly bring retribution of a kind. 306 00:17:37,300 --> 00:17:43,300 That retribution may be a curse from the same volcano god feared and revered by the Incas. 307 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:47,300 Recently, Sabanquilla began spewing smoke and ash again. 308 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:52,300 As often as three times a day, Simmons sees this as a warning. 309 00:17:52,300 --> 00:18:00,300 You can think in terms of the curse following the person who did the desecrating, 310 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:07,300 but the people in the immediate vicinity may suffer also by failed crops, 311 00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:12,300 their stock, sicken and die, or volcanic eruption. 312 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:15,300 The mountain is upset about something. 313 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:24,300 In Atlanta, Georgia, one of the largest specialty stores in the country 314 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:29,300 is now offering a unique gift item that can only be described as out of this world, 315 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:33,300 inspired by the mysterious saucer crash near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. 316 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:39,300 The sharper image is selling life-sized replicas of what they call the Roswell Alien. 317 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:41,300 I've never seen an alien before. 318 00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:48,300 I'm sure everybody has conceptualized and visualized what a being would look like coming from outer space. 319 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:54,300 Woodard believes that the Roswell Alien is a fitting addition to a store known for cutting-edge ideas. 320 00:18:54,300 --> 00:19:01,300 Overall, I think everybody knows that that's the kind of product that keeps sharper image on the leading edge, 321 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:04,300 if you will, in terms of mystique and uniqueness. 322 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:11,300 The look of the alien is based on eyewitness accounts of creatures that many people believe were hidden away by the military 323 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:16,300 after the Roswell crash, accounts the government denies. 324 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:22,300 I find that there are some customers that are very well informed in terms of the amount of information that's been released, 325 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:29,300 and they in turn will sometimes want to elaborate with respect to their own points of views as it applies to the Roswell Alien. 326 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:37,300 The alien lists for just under $1,700, and so far, seven customers have decided they just have to have one. 327 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:49,300 In Washington, D.C., a recent report issued by the Central Intelligence Agency confirms that the American government 328 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:55,300 has been funding psychic research, in particular, its potential use for psychic espionage. 329 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:58,300 It was thought to seek it throughout the intelligence community. 330 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:05,300 The existence was compartmented and provided to only a few people who had the need to know. 331 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:10,300 But now that the news is out, the CIA claims that the psychic experiments have never worked, 332 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:14,300 and is recommending that the government stop funding for further research. 333 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:21,300 While this is their official position, one psychic in the remote viewing program told sightings that there were successes. 334 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:28,300 In Desert Storm to locate a rock's biological weapons facility and pinpoint the location of Libya's ruler, Omar Qaddafi. 335 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:38,300 We took this discovery out of the laboratory, and we developed it into a militarily useful tool that could be used to support intelligence requirements 336 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:43,300 in the event of a life or death situation where a deadly force was necessary. 337 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:52,300 If there's something that anybody in a positional authority thinks can possibly be turned into a weapon, they'll probably continue to look at it. 338 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:57,300 Are forays into remote viewing continuing despite CIA claims to the contrary? 339 00:20:57,300 --> 00:21:01,300 Sightings will have an extended report on an upcoming program. 340 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:10,300 We'll have more stories from the news next time. Now, here's what's coming up on sightings. 341 00:21:10,300 --> 00:21:15,300 A psychic provides South Bend police with new clues to an unsolved murder mystery. 342 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:19,300 I see what the victim sees, thus recreating the crime. 343 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:25,300 Later, are these the bones of a spirit haunting a Maryland house? 344 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:36,300 Psychic Detective Carol Pate was called into a recent murder investigation in South Bend, Indiana. 345 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:43,300 Over the telephone, she made a series of startling statements that convinced one police officer of Carol's psychic gift. 346 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:48,300 Her initial impressions were so encouraging, sightings have sent Carol to South Bend 347 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:52,300 so she can see, touch, and feel the actual crime scene. 348 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:55,300 From Indiana, Carla Wall reports. 349 00:21:55,300 --> 00:22:11,300 I use what's known as psychometry and that's holding a ring or watch, a personal object. 350 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:20,300 So if I hold a victim's, say, ring or photograph, I then can become one with the victim. 351 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:25,300 I see what the victim sees, thus recreating the crime. 352 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:32,300 I've worked with psychics in the past. I do have a belief that some people have an ability that maybe you and I don't possess. 353 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:35,300 I do believe that there are some that have that ability. 354 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:41,300 No pain, no suffering, just a blow. 355 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:52,300 On August 25th, 1990, three employees at this Osco drugstore in South Bend, Indiana were shot to death during a robbery. 356 00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:58,300 For the community, the investigating officers, and the families of the victims, the anguish still lingers. 357 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:06,300 Five years after the murders, the man police and South Bend residents believe is the killer, is still walking the streets, a free man. 358 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:10,300 Because there just isn't enough evidence to convict him. 359 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:13,300 It hurts to even go back and think about it. 360 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:18,300 See, all these people were just in manner of minutes, it was over. 361 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:29,300 Store manager Scott Dick, clerk Connie Zalewski, and pharmacist Tracy Holvett were all shot at point-blank range just before the store opened for business. 362 00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:32,300 What about the cameras? There were cameras in this store. 363 00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:36,300 Cameras had been in place in the store, but apparently there was a malfunction. 364 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:38,300 They weren't operational at the time this occurred. 365 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:43,300 Hopefully that's what Carol Patle did. Maybe Carol Patle would be our camera. 366 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:56,300 Lead detective Sergeant D. Michael Swanson agreed to work with psychic Carol Paik, because after five frustrating years on the case, any lead is better than no lead at all. 367 00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:59,300 I came into the case cold. I didn't know anything. 368 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:03,300 The only thing, I knew there was a victim. 369 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:10,300 I knew it was an Osco drug store. That's all. 370 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:20,300 And that's the way I like to work the case. That way I know that what I pick up, if it comes through correctly, then it's accurate information. 371 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:28,300 So detective Swanson didn't tell Carol about the mysterious female accomplice. He believes maybe the key to cracking the case. 372 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,300 Having the same key is that we have more than one suspect. 373 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:38,300 Obviously we have been told that there's a female in the store. We have a witness that sees a female in the store, believes it's acting as an accomplice. 374 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:42,300 It's been the biggest mystery of this case for five years. Who is this one? 375 00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:47,300 It's a question the victim's families want and need answered. 376 00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:55,300 What would it mean to you and to your family to be able to bring someone to justice? 377 00:24:55,300 --> 00:25:05,300 I think it would help. I mean, there's no doubt our family is going to have this hanging over our heads the rest of our life. 378 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:12,300 It's not going to go away because when he shot her, he might as well have shot all of us. 379 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:24,300 Carol came in cold after the store had closed. She clutched personal items the victim's families had provided to police and used these to develop psychic impressions of the crime spray. 380 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:35,300 I feel that the man that did this, he knew the store, he knew it very well, he may have worked there. 381 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:49,300 He's angry at the young man, though. He's really angry at the young man. 382 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:54,300 They work for him. We're talking about a suspect, we believe that they work for this company, in this particular store. 383 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:56,300 A former manager of the store? That's correct. 384 00:25:56,300 --> 00:26:04,300 Who was fired? Yeah, basically was fired. It was asked to resign under circumstances which would have been forced to be fired at the end. 385 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:11,300 Unknown to Carol, two of the victims died on this very spot in front of the pharmacy. 386 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:18,300 I'm getting a dropping down. 387 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:36,300 It feels like a victim's energy and it feels like a dropping down. Separation. Tracy recognized the man and at first she felt friendly and then all of a sudden she was shot. 388 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:45,300 At that point we think that they just basically walked into what was going on and were murdered because of the fact that they were there and seeing who was involved in it. 389 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:52,300 Then inside this 14,000 square foot store Carol stopped in the exact location where the third victim had died. 390 00:26:52,300 --> 00:27:04,300 I'm getting a whole lot of trauma going on here and it's, it feels like death. 391 00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:09,300 She was able to focus on other locations where the victims were found. 392 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:18,300 The rear story of this store, the storage area, the hallway of the runway which she described as a runway area, we think played a significant part. 393 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:25,300 We think there may have been the suspect being encountered on both of our females back in that particular area of the store. 394 00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:32,300 Carol then seemed to pick up on the one key element that police believe may lead them to a conviction. 395 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:45,300 There is a female with this man. She goes back down to the front. She's checking to see if anyone's hurt anything, if, if, because of gunshots. 396 00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:49,300 I get them getting money, they did get money. 397 00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:59,300 In fact $6,000 was taken from the safe. Carol's remarkable accuracy convinced Detective Swanson that it was more than a lucky guess. 398 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:10,300 Okay, she's coming in. Carol sat with the police sketch artist and described in detail the woman she saw in her mind's eye. 399 00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:20,300 The South Bend Police Department has asked sightings not to reveal the sketch of the female accomplice until they can follow up on all of Carol's startling leads. 400 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:31,300 The sketch itself names as she may come up with locations. We're going to look at those as potential leads. We're going to follow those and see if we can, in fact, develop something off of something she's given us. 401 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:40,300 The family wants to know what happened in that store. Maybe we'll never know, but we want to. 402 00:28:40,300 --> 00:29:00,300 A reward of $100,000 is being offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the South Bend killer. If you have information important to this case, please contact the South Bend Indiana Police Department. 403 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:06,300 Next, a secret from this home's past may be causing its haunting today. 404 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:10,300 The first thing that I sense from this, slaves. 405 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:25,300 When Marley and Olin Schmidt started renovating their 19th century home in Westminster, Maryland, there was a lot of dust and a lot of expense and a lot of stress. 406 00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:32,300 All that paled in comparison to the chilling events that followed a grisly discovery buried under the house. 407 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:50,300 In the town of Westminster, Maryland, historic preservation is a priority because each building, they say, holds up a mirror to the past, reflecting its rich civil war history. 408 00:29:50,300 --> 00:30:02,300 Not far from Westminster, abolitionist John Brown was executed for his heroic but unpopular efforts to end slavery in the South. It seems that in this town, change of any kind comes at a price. 409 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:12,300 Marley Schmidt learned this lesson all too well when she found her dream house in Westminster. It was built in the mid-19th century in need of serious repairs. 410 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:18,300 And as soon as the family moved in, strange figures appeared to let Marley know the house was already occupied. 411 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:31,300 We moved into the house on December 25th, 1986. And that day I was cleaning and I looked up and I saw a figure of a gentleman, which at first I thought was my husband. 412 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:39,300 There was no way that there was a reflection of anything. It was a brief figure that was there and that was gone. 413 00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:46,300 And my husband had been in a different part of the house and he wasn't wearing the same clothes that the gentleman had on. 414 00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:50,300 The presence also made itself known to Marley's children. 415 00:30:50,300 --> 00:31:01,300 When my family and I moved into the house I was 15 years old and we always felt, or I always thought there was something funny about the house, especially when we moved in. 416 00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:15,300 One night I just had turned off the light and my bed started going down like somebody was sitting at the edge of my bed and it was really, really weird. 417 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:19,300 The strange forces seemed to resent the family's intrusion into the house. 418 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:26,300 Ghostly forms began to appear on a regular basis and Marley came to the difficult realization that her home was haunted. 419 00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:37,300 As time went on, everyone got used to the eerie encounters. They were able to cope until last year, when Marley finally put into action her ambitious plans to renovate the home. 420 00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:48,300 My mother and my stepfather started renovating the house and that's when unexplainable things that had never happened here started happening. 421 00:31:48,300 --> 00:32:00,300 When I started tearing the chimney down, I discovered that it's very old and it could have possibly been here late 1700s or something. 422 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:06,300 The intensity of the things happening in the house picked up immensely. 423 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:14,300 On September 9th, Carla and Jennifer had seen a figure standing by the window in the second floor. 424 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:21,300 It was like a dark shadow. It was kind of like you could see the head and the shoulder. 425 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:30,300 The figure in the window vanished as quickly as it had appeared. Then in the stairwell, they saw an amorphous blue form coming at them. 426 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:40,300 There's a blue mist. That's the only way I can describe it. There's a blue mist and it had a figure in it. You could definitely see a figure. 427 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:50,300 It was almost like looking at a neon light. It glowed. It was almost fluorescent. Just a clear, deep sky blue. 428 00:32:50,300 --> 00:33:01,300 When it was in the corner, it had the shape almost of a human form. Then at other times, when it was around the doorway, it took the form of the doorway. 429 00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:17,300 There was no earthly explanation and they were frightened. On a friend's recommendation, Carla contacted Pamela Saylor, a local psychic familiar with the area's rich history and with the disturbing paranormal activity which often occurs in the old homes of Westminster. 430 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:24,300 When they first called me, fear, terror in their voices over the telephone, I could not believe it. 431 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:32,300 Saylor surveyed the home and felt she had made contact almost immediately. She verified the family's worst fears about the entities here. 432 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:39,300 I dealt with one entity that I felt was a very negative entity and the whole family was afraid of this entity. 433 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:51,300 She said that it didn't like me because I tore down the chimney and felt it was its home. It was a very cold negative kind of feeling too. Very scary. 434 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:58,300 Saylor felt that the entity was angry and she felt its presence most strongly in the old cellar. 435 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:10,300 He said, I did not die a normal death. I said, you're in the chimney, are you not? Then I knew there had to be bones or something in this house. 436 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:20,300 At first, Saylor's psychic impressions baffled the family. The thought of finding bones buried in the cellar at the base of the chimney was just beyond reason. 437 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:26,300 But out of desperation, the family followed Saylor's psychic advice and began to dig. 438 00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:35,300 When I tore up the hearth of the old fireplace, I got down there and started digging around and found some old bones. 439 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,300 And possibly they could be human bones. 440 00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:47,300 Marla removed the bones from the site herself. She was sure they must be animal bones and took them to local veterinarian Sharon Cashinback for confirmation. 441 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:51,300 But the doctor would not rule out the possibility that the bones are human. 442 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:58,300 Again, perhaps a hip or a shoulder bone from either a large animal or perhaps even human. 443 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:07,300 Removing the bones from the home may have been a mistake. It seems to have exacerbated the anger and resentment coming from the ghostly forces in the home. 444 00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:16,300 It is at this point that sightings in psychic Peter Anthony have come into the investigation and Anthony senses an angry entity almost immediately. 445 00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:23,300 As I climbed up into the attic, there was a coolness or if you want to even call it what I call a spirit. 446 00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:30,300 And as I was up there, I could hear this entity walking. 447 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:36,300 And Anthony does not feel the paranormal activity is limited to one room or only one spirit. 448 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:41,300 When I went into the north part of the home, there was a room in there that was blue. 449 00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,300 And as soon as I walked into the room, I sensed death. 450 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:51,300 But it was in the cellar that Anthony made his most disturbing discovery. 451 00:35:51,300 --> 00:36:07,300 The first thing that I sense from this, slaves out of fear, running slaves up from the south. 452 00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,300 This was a hiding place. 453 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:17,300 There's something in this dark corner over here that there's death all around in this lower area through here. 454 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:24,300 Further back in the darkest recesses of this Sumterranian storage area, Anthony made a psychic discovery. 455 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:28,300 There's a murder right here in this area. 456 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:35,300 There it is. Okay, he's here. 457 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:40,300 Your spirit is here. 458 00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:50,300 There was a man, black male, who was just physically beaten to death. 459 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:56,300 And see this man's face and this black man was murdered here. 460 00:36:56,300 --> 00:37:02,300 I can't stay here. I have to leave this area. 461 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:08,300 Overcome with emotion, Anthony declared that this entity was responsible for much of the haunting activity. 462 00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:15,300 He believes that he must learn as much as he can about who this spirit is and why this place is so important to him. 463 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:22,300 In the meantime, Peter Anthony has constructive suggestions for Marla and her family to at least subdue the entities. 464 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:32,300 I think once the renovations are completed in the home, you'll find that these spirit meetings or encounters will sort of subside. 465 00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:40,300 Go through the house and bring a little salt and candles and just release the spirits. Send them on to their places. 466 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:45,300 To further assist the family, Sightings has contacted an historical researcher in Westminster. 467 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:57,300 She provided information linking the entity that Anthony describes as a murder victim to the real-life execution of a runaway slave who may have died in the home. 468 00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:05,300 In the 1860s, this area was part of the Underground Railroad, providing comfort to many slaves seeking safe passage to the north. 469 00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:09,300 Slaves who were caught suffered brutal punishment and often death. 470 00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:17,300 Perhaps the spirit in the Schmidt House was one of those murdered slaves who, even in death, still seeks his freedom. 471 00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:23,300 Several days after our investigation, an unsettling spate of new phenomena began in the house. 472 00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:32,300 Peter Anthony is continuing to work with the family and believes that it may take time before the ghosts of Westminster finally move on. 473 00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:36,300 Next, a glimpse across the universe and back into time. 474 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:41,300 The images that came out were stunningly beautiful. 475 00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:56,300 After a rocky start, the Hubble Space Telescope is sending back pictures from deep within our universe, each one more startling than the last. 476 00:38:56,300 --> 00:39:04,300 But now, the Hubble has captured an event astronomers have only dreamt about, the cosmic incubator where stars are born. 477 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,300 Cardi Wall reports. 478 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:13,300 It's not what you'd expect to see in outer space, a bright, seemingly sunlit cloud of cosmic dust and gas. 479 00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:17,300 A place astronomers tell us where new stars are created. 480 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:24,300 When the Hubble Space Telescope first sent back these images from the Eagle Nebula far across the universe, 481 00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:29,300 even seasoned astronomers like Ann Kenny were awed by their beauty and power. 482 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:34,300 The images that came out were stunningly beautiful. 483 00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:39,300 Everyone who saw them gasped when they saw them. 484 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:46,300 With a closer look, you could also see a lot of details that hadn't been seen in these star-forming regions before. 485 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:50,300 With these pictures, theory became reality. 486 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:55,300 There were areas in the nebula called eggs, evaporating gaseous globules, 487 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:59,300 where astronomers discovered infant stars reaching into space. 488 00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:05,300 At Arizona State University, I met with Dr. Jeff Hester, the project's principal investigator, 489 00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:09,300 and asked him to explain the startling new Hubble pictures. 490 00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:15,300 What we're looking at when we look at this picture is a region where new stars are being formed. 491 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:19,300 These long columns are referred to by astronomers as elephant trunks. 492 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:26,300 What they are are massive columns of dense interstellar gas. 493 00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:28,300 They're sort of birth columns for stars. 494 00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:30,300 Birth columns for stars. 495 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:35,300 What looks like a thunder cloud is actually larger than our solar system, 496 00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:38,300 and it's more than 7,000 light-years away. 497 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:43,300 That means the images we see today are 7,000 years old. 498 00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,300 What's happening there today, we can only guess. 499 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:51,300 Our sun, our planetary system, the Earth that we are sitting on, 500 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:56,300 is the result of this same process of star formation. 501 00:40:56,300 --> 00:41:01,300 We don't have the luxury of going back 4.5 billion years and watching what happened with our own sun 502 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:04,300 and watching our own solar system form. 503 00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:10,300 But what we can do is look around us and look at regions in our galaxy where new stars are forming. 504 00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:15,300 And when we do that, we're coming to understand how you and I got here. 505 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:21,300 And I think that buried deep down in the hearts of men is a need to do that. 506 00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:27,300 Some of the people who've looked at these pictures have seen not only the creation of life, but also a creator, 507 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:32,300 picking up images of everything from the face of Jesus to risque messages. 508 00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:36,300 According to Hester, seeing these images is fun, but it's not science. 509 00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:41,300 When I took the pictures home and showed them to my kids, the very first thing that they started doing 510 00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,300 was picking pictures out. 511 00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:48,300 And maybe that's why people react to the picture so strongly. 512 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:50,300 It's almost biological. 513 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:54,300 It's almost as if it's familiar, but yet it's not. 514 00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:58,300 How can the birth of a star possibly affect us on Earth? 515 00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:05,300 I think that when people look at these pictures, even if they don't understand the details of the science, 516 00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:10,300 I think that they're awed by the fact that this is a real thing. 517 00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:11,300 This is out there. 518 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:13,300 It's part of our universe. 519 00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:17,300 It's part of the things that connect us with the rest of our universe. 520 00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:26,300 If you have access to the Internet, you can download pictures from this and other Hubble telescope projects on several sites. 521 00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:30,300 You can download pictures through the Sightings Forum on American Online 522 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,300 or on the World Wide Web. 523 00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:36,300 Access pictures and information by typing, you better have a pencil for this one, 524 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:51,300 http colon double backslash www.stsi.edu backslash pubinfo. 525 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:56,300 Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind. 526 00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:59,300 For Sightings, I'm Tim White. 527 00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:02,300 Sightings, I'm Tim White. 528 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:04,300 Sightings, I'm Tim White. 529 00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,300 Sightings, I'm Tim White. 530 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,300 Sightings, I'm Tim White. 531 00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:10,300 Sightings, I'm Tim White. 532 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:12,300 Sightings, I'm Tim White. 533 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,300 Sightings, I'm Tim White. 534 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